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    Interview | Director of "Fifty Kilometers of Taohuawu": Everyone needs emotional value

    In the first season of "Fifty Kilometers of Taohuawu", the show was carried out in a seemingly chaotic state. The audience watched several episodes, but they didn't understand why a group of unfamiliar stars were gathered together and let them live together. It was equivalent to forced socializing. Since there was no fixed theme of the show, embarrassment and social death scenes often appeared.

    In the second season, the invited guests have undergone subtle changes. There are not only people who often go to variety shows, but also extremely direct and social people like Wang Chuanjun, and talk show actors like Li Xueqin and Xu Zhisheng. After Song Dandan's "Nine Minutes of Embarrassment" came out of the circle, the reactions and micro-expressions of the celebrities present were frantically interpreted by netizens, and substituted into ordinary people's interpersonal situations in the workplace and life. This 9-minute famous scene is also considered to be famous in the history of domestic variety shows.

    Wang Hedi and Wang Chuanjun

    Not only that, the wonderful combination of Wang Chuanjun and Wang Hedi, as well as the presence of a wonderful man like Mencius, made Taohuawu in the second season more and more interesting. The audience gradually felt the social experiment significance of the show, and people with different personalities can also communicate. Try to get out of the comfort zone and treat each other sincerely. Maybe you can gain an unforgettable friendship, especially Wang Chuanjun and Wang Hedi.

    This year, when the trend of life-streaming variety shows seems to be over, "Fifty Kilometers of Taohuawu" came to the third season, and still insisted on the concept of social experimentation. In addition to some old dockers, many newcomers were added, especially the talk show actor Niao Niao. In the eyes of the audience, the interesting part of this show is also undergoing subtle changes. In this season, many viewers have already regarded the show as a human nature observation laboratory, and even substituted themselves.

    bird bird

    The three-season programs are getting better and better, and the meaning is getting clearer and clearer. They don't appear often in the comprehensive N generation, which is inseparable from the director's team's constant thinking about social experiments.

    "In the first season, we were indeed co-creating with artists. We actually didn't have any specific ideas. We watched it while filming. It was an experimental program. There was no way to design very detailed program rules and framework especially in the first season, and there was no competition system. Later, we found that sleeping on the roof (performance art) included some problems in collective life." Director Chi Yuan recalled.

    So in the second season, in order to solve the looseness and confusion, some strong rules were set, or in other words, to guide the artists into the rules, such as dividing into three families according to accommodation. Obviously this method works, but the artists don't necessarily adapt, and it doesn't help the unleashed part of the reality show. So in the third season, the director team decided to relax a little more, "I don't really want to restrain everyone. I don't have to follow any rules to do things. It's a process of slow adjustment and accumulation."

    Group photo of the guests of the third season of "Fifty Kilometers of Taohuawu"

    Headache selection and site selection

    For variety shows, especially reality shows, the first step is to select people, and this is also the most important step. "Choosing people is the lifeblood of every show, especially this kind of artist show. The right choice and the wrong choice are relatively fatal." Chi Yuan said.

    The director team was first selected according to the popular MBTI method. Although the specific types were not measured, they were basically distinguished according to this idea. "Especially in the first season, personality, age and background were the three most important dimensions for us. Then draw some character relationship diagrams and distinguishing points of personality. For example, there are introverted and conflict-avoiding types, and extroverts have strong and passive types. Basically, 15 people cannot be repeated."

    In the second season, based on the situation in the first season, the director team made a bold attempt by adding people like Wang Chuanjun. In the last three dimensions, multiple dimensions were added. Can people who seem to be unsocial be able to integrate into collective life? The combination of Wang Chuanjun and Wang Hedi surprised them, and it was unexpected, "It's like choosing a partner, whether they can see each other and become friends." Chi Yuan said.

    Song Dandan and Zhang Guoli are an "old couple" combination in the show

    In this season, Chi Yuan said that the logic mainly becomes the relationship dimension. "The first thing we think about is the relationship between the newcomers and these three families. Jiang Shuying is Wang Chuanjun's college classmate, and they will gradually integrate together. Teacher Guoli is a friend of Sister Dan." Of course, "we also need some actors with more extreme personalities." For example, Birds.

    Anyone who has watched the talk show knows that Niao Niao is a serious social terrorist, and it may be very difficult to live in groups. Chi Yuan also said that at the beginning, more than one new guest was hesitant and tangled, "The most fearful thing at the beginning is that they feel that they are relatively introverted, or that they are not social talents. This is what they are most worried about."

    Zhou Yiwei

    In the end, Chi Yuan persuaded them, "We need people who make it clear what kind of personality we have. If you don't play with everyone, you can be alone anywhere. At the beginning, Wang Chuanjun looked at the birds and the sea alone, including Zhou Yiwei now. The contrast is quite big. You will find that he is a person who is unwilling to explain himself. But when it comes to acting, he immediately becomes domineering. But in life, he just drinks tea and plays chess. There are people with different personalities, and you don’t have to be good at social skills to come.”

    Chi Yuan can persuade artists, but this year no amateur "convinces" Chi Yuan. This is also a change in the third season. Chi Yuan explained that he just didn't meet the right one.

    "First of all, you can't find a vegan person, because he does have a dialogue problem with the artist. It doesn't mean who is superior, but everyone's topics and understandings are different. It is difficult to integrate into a show that focuses on artists. Maybe the dialogue is not suitable. You can only find some who are not stars, actors, or singers, but maybe some outstanding people in other industries, or some elites. They have made outstanding achievements in their fields. Spicy style, but if you put him in the crowd of artists, he will naturally restrain himself. Everyone’s experience and life are different, and it’s true that we can’t talk together.”

    But he doesn't think it represents the future, "Maybe we will use it next year, and we will reserve this position."

    The third season of "Fifty Kilometers of Taohuawu" opened in Yunnan (left), but because some guests suffered from severe altitude sickness, they moved to Hainan in the second season (right)

    After the selection, Chi Yuan's headache was the location selection. Chi Yuan felt that the difficulty in choosing a reality show location lies in the fact that it needs to be linked to what the show wants to convey. "Every year, we must sort out an emotional value suitable for this show based on the current social mood." For example, the second season is at the seaside. He believes that everyone needs some healing at that time, and human beings are very small in front of the vast sea. The director team walked around all the islands along the coast of Guangdong and spent three months finding a no-man's land in Haikou.

    This season, the director team believes that everyone needs to decompress this year, and they don’t want to see so many heavy things, including the director team themselves, "We want to be happy and wild. The mountains are the best, and that is Yungui."

    "Utopia" in the entertainment industry

    The popularity of the second season of "Taohuawu" is not only reflected in its popularity. Unlike other reality shows, it seems that it doesn't matter after recording, but in the entertainment industry, you can still often feel their interaction. They even mentioned each other in acting and casting, and recommended jobs. This means that they really became friends. The entertainment circle is a vanity fair, the size of the celebrity, and the style and orientation of the artist will all make a difference in the social circle, but after getting along, the people of the docks ignore these so-called circles and coffee positions, and really make friends with each other, which is rare and touching. In the third season, most of the old people kept it, and their relationship got better and better. Chi Yuan felt that an important expectation of the stars for this show is to "make friends".

    Stills of the third season of "Fifty Kilometers of Taohuawu"

    "Artists gather less and leave more, and their work has special characteristics. For example, they all live in Beijing, but they may not be in Beijing every day. They may be more in Hengdian. The work is relatively fluid, and it takes three to four months once they join the group. So it is difficult for them to have long-term friends, or they have very little time and energy to maintain friendship. It is hard to make friends in the crew. After this project is over, the time to meet again may be one or two years later.

    It is not easy for an artist to make friends and maintain friendship when they are away from home all year round, but people need a channel to talk to and comfort from friends. "It is a rare life experience to make a program like this, where everyone can get along and sleep together day and night. You don’t expect to be friends with everyone, but you can at least make one or two. This show cannot go down because the artists’ sense of security is very weak. Once established, it will be very good. But we will not take the initiative to chat with them about who to make friends with once we enter Taohuawood. , we don’t interfere, we feel it ourselves.”

    Stills of the third season of "Fifty Kilometers of Taohuawu"

    Chi Yuan revealed that these guests themselves may be more "top" than the audience. During the recording, sometimes there are conflicts and frictions. Once the recording is over, everyone will miss it very much and anxiously ask when the next recording will be.

    "I think the reason is to break the routine and step out of the comfort zone. They found that it is not necessarily a bad thing. They make themselves more real, open themselves more, and find a lot of friends. It is the same for amateurs and artists, because ordinary people seldom have this kind of group life. They never recognize familiarity and then become some good friends. In this process, we use a lot of content design to speed up this thing. The concentration is very high." Coupled with the characteristics of the artist's own work, the sense of security is very weak, and once established, it is very good.

    This kind of "upper" made the old dockers have a strong sense of responsibility in this season, so strong that they collapsed themselves. "The reason for the collapse several times is that they want the show too much. They feel that they have the responsibility to lead the new dockers forward. They can't fall down, so they are very tired." Chi Yuan said with a smile, which made the program crew a lot easier.

    Radio 650 can be said to be a story line running through the three seasons of "Fifty Kilometers of Taohuawu"

    To put it bluntly, "Taohuawu" is like a "Utopia", both for the artists and for the audience. "For example, it's raining outside, and you say we're going to get in the rain together, and your friend says you're crazy, and then asks me where I put the frisbee, and the two finally rush into the rain to play frisbee together. I think this provides an emotional value, which is absurd and funny." And this emotional value is exactly what young people, especially young people, need most in the contemporary fast-paced society.

    For example, Chi Yuan, everyone did a lot of absurd things in Taohuawu, which I didn’t understand and didn’t make sense at the time. For example, the magic lamp family celebrated Sun Yi’s birthday.

    "But after everyone thinks about it, they say that I have never done such a ridiculous thing in my life, but it is very exciting and fun. It is a unique life experience and romantic."

    The magic lamp family celebrates Sun Yi's birthday

    On July 23, after the broadcast of Sun Yi's birthday program, Wang Hedi posted a picture on Weibo, saying: Some happy memories in the early morning

    See the truth in the rules

    This season of "Taohuawu" has several interesting social scenes, such as the matter of choosing a room, the director team proposed a "NO PUSH" rule. This rule means that when guests put forward their own suggestions, other members put their hands in the bracelets with "NO PUSH" written on them, and vote anonymously without seeing their hand movements clearly. Through such an independent experiment, the program group tried to respect everyone's wishes while protecting people with different wishes from being exposed.

    Wang Sulong in the "NO PUSH" segment

    Chi Yuan himself likes this "advanced" rule very much. He said frankly that the inspiration for this rule was the embarrassing 9 minutes last year. "Through the fact that Sister Dan wants to hold a party, you can see the personalities of different people. Wang Chuanjun just doesn't want it. The inspiration lies in this No."

    He thinks this is a feature of the show as a social experiment show, "We take such a small matter, so that the artists don't have too much vigilance, don't feel that the show group is looking for trouble, and it doesn't involve any value issues. Let the artists make choices and show their true self. In the end, I found that you respect everyone's ideas, and the final result may not be very satisfactory. Everyone has not been able to reach an agreement for a long time.

    The final result is also what Chi Yuan wanted to express, a direction of thinking about the embarrassing 9 minutes, "Respect everyone's wishes, vote anonymously, and you will find that everyone has their own ideas. You respect everyone, and the result is that this matter cannot be advanced. After many rounds of voting, until someone feels that there is still no result in the game, they will jump out and break this rule."

    Yin Haoyu in the "I am sorry" segment

    Another thing that Chi Yuan likes more is the "I am sorry" part of the eighth issue (performance art part, open your heart to someone at the seaside, and make a confession free from blame), "I don't know what happened, I cried to tears, anyway, it's quite released, and the effect is pretty good."

    However, there are also some designs in the program that did not achieve the desired effect. For example, in the first episode of "Spring Bath", the program group originally intended to meet each other frankly. The idea was good, but the guests couldn't let go, and their embarrassment overflowed the screen.

    It's about what the artist wants to show and what he doesn't want to show. Although in the interview, Chi Yuan said that the program team also wants to inspire different sides of the guests, and Taohuawu is also a big relaxing family, but there are still boundaries in social interaction, and there are also different personal wishes.

    "This is a gamble. It's impossible for everyone to follow your ideas. If you don't open it up, there's nothing you can do about it. But I believe that this environment and the characteristics of living in groups will create a social field where people can easily open themselves up. What we need to do is to build a sense of security. You can't say you relax a bit, because many people are afraid that they won't be able to catch up or offend others.

    Song Dandan altitude sickness

    Zhang Guoli then said that he would also leave

    The sense of security that Chi Yuan refers to mostly refers to physical safety issues on the Yunnan-Guizhou Plateau. For example, Song Dandan feels unwell when he comes up. However, the situation continued and the absence of the two elders made the old people very nervous. Chi Yuan felt their pressure, "I found out why they were not happy, and I found out after chatting that it was because of too much pressure."

    But Chi Yuan is not overly worried about the release of pressure, so he has to mention one of his favorite special designs: Gudu House, which is actually a homonym for loneliness. "Once you go to that place, you will really (quiet down) and get some relief and healing. This is also one of the most unique places in this show."

    be careful in the future

    To talk about this season of "Taohuawu", what experience and lessons Chi Yuan has learned, maybe it is the public opinion turmoil brought about by the incident of Ren Min and Tang Jingmei.

    When they first entered Taohuawu, everyone was discussing to put on a show together, and Ren Min and Tang Jingmei proposed to form a band. After a meal, Tang Jingmei talked to Ren Min and told Ren Min that she had formed a new band with Song Qian and others, and she was not going to sing Faye Wong's songs anymore. If she wanted to learn an instrument, she would come. Ren Min felt that she was "abandoned".

    "Many disputes are caused by misunderstandings. They don't understand each other, and they have a lot of ideas. Slowly, people will make up a story more and more. If you don't explain or communicate at the moment, this matter will be filled with endless brains. It's normal to have emotions at the moment, but communicate this matter that night, and they immediately understand each other. If there is a problem, we will solve it right away."

    In fact, the friction in the program passed quickly, but the severity of the public opinion turmoil brought about was beyond the expectation of the program team.

    Screenshot of the third season of "Fifty Kilometers of Taohuawu"

    "First of all, you can't stop public opinion. Variety shows welcome everyone to discuss. But at that time, this matter may be very focused, and both parties involved, including the program group, will be greatly affected. In fact, before the broadcast, we did not hesitate to present this misunderstanding caused by the formation of the band, because first of all, this program is a social experiment. In addition to being happy, there must be some misunderstandings when people get along. We released these daily misunderstandings. In fact, it is communication.

    "Our original intention is to hope that everyone can communicate and resolve misunderstandings in a timely manner like them when they encounter similar misunderstandings and conflicts. However, the focus of public opinion is on who is right and who is wrong. The biggest trouble is the negative harm to the artist. This is something we don't want. Tang Jingmei is very straightforward. Ren Min has such a heart. Everyone has valuable characteristics. What's wrong with expressing your truest attitude and thoughts? Don't you have these small conflicts and misunderstandings in your life? Just figure it out. Isn’t this the normal state of our lives? Why do people get so much doubt when they show their normal state? Then which artist would dare to speak the truth? Before speaking, do you have to use your brains and sign a review agreement with the program team? Then how to do the show.”

    Chi Yuan has put a lot of thought into this matter. Perhaps the director team hopes that the show will be popular, but when the hot search hurts the artist and affects the trust in the program team, this is not what Chi Yuan wants to see.

    Screenshot of the third season of "Fifty Kilometers of Taohuawu"

    "Everyone trusts us and shows their truest state. If we use this thing to gain popularity and hurt them, I don't think that should be the case. So we must be cautious. If this happens next time, I will consider whether I want to broadcast it. This is not a good thing for the show, because the Taohuawu show is still based on reality. But for artists, it can prevent them from being hurt."

    Many viewers have been healed from "Taohuawu". Maybe it's the ease of watching people live their lives, or the fun of some design scenes, or the emotion of Wang Chuanjun crying in front of Rizhao Jinshan, but Chi Yuan doesn't want it to rise to the level of meaning.

    It is also difficult for us to make friends, and it is also a very good thing to meet these interesting artists and friends. With this opportunity and this condition, why can't we do happy things together every year? Everyone's relationship is getting deeper and deeper, and it feels like seeing family members. Although we are busy with each other and don't communicate much, we will silently wish each other well. For example, everyone is happy for Wang Hedi's current growth. "

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